Measuring Matters: Japanese Pass Waist Restrictions
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A couple of months ago, I wrote an April fool's gag about the government stepping in on the obesity epidemic in America and enacting an anti-obesity law. Some people realized it was a joke and thought it was funny. Others weren't so quick to catch on and were outraged. But my goal was to spark conversation on a touchy subject -- which I did.To whit: Should the government step in?
Some said yes, some said no, but everyone held passionate views. So when I saw the New York Times article, "Japan, Seeking Trim Waists, Measures Millions," I was instantly curious. Had Japan done what some Americans believe was necessary to stop this growing problem? Did the Japanese even have an obesity problem? Would they have a catchy tune to help illustrate the issue and give the people something to dance to?
The answer to all of these questions seemed more mysterious than the origins of the ninja… But I was ready to find out.
The law, which took effect two months ago, breaks down like this: Companies and local governments must measure the waists of Japanese citizens between the ages of 40 and 74 (about 44 percent of the population of Japan, or 56 million people).
If people are over the prescribed waist size -- 33.5 inches for men, 35.4 for women -- then they are given dietary guidance first and "re-education" after six months if the dietary guidance isn't effective. (Re-education sounds a little too Clockwork Orange for me.) If companies fail to have their employees meet these new weight guidelines they could face huge fines.
Many complain these guidelines are too strict and that the government is simply trying to shift the cost of healthcare to the private sector -- most Japanese are covered by public healthcare or through their work.
However, proponents think this new law will help to stop the ballooning cost of healthcare for Japan's ever-increasing elderly population, as well as stop the spread of several weight-related diseases with the focus being on metabolic syndrome -- a precursor to diabetes and heart disease.
With such drastic measures to stop Japan's ballooning beltlines, they must be facing some serious weight woes. But how bad is it? According to Japanese statistics, the average waist size for a Japanese man is 32.8 inches and 28 inches for a woman. If you're wondering how we stack up here in the United States, the average waist size for men is 39 inches and 36.5 inches for women.
If you ask me, and I'm considered overweight by Japanese standards at a 34-inch waist, I think they need to lighten up in over there (not literally), but maybe we could learn a thing or two about coming together as a nation to stop this growing epidemic.
I'm not sure if it will work, but something needs to be done. So, I'll leave you with a few of the lyrics from Japan's anti-metabolic syndrome song that's sweeping the nation and got my toes tapping. I couldn't make this up if I wanted to:
Goodbye, metabolic. Let’s get our checkups together. Go! Go! Go!
Goodbye, metabolic. Don’t wait till you get sick. No! No! No!
Do you think the Japanese have the right idea? Would an approach like this work here in the States? Let us know what you think and comment below.
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Comment: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 8:25:00 PM - 
said...
I lived in Japan for a couple of years, and they didn't seem to me to have much of a weight problem. But that was 20-some years ago, and I've heard that they're adopting more American-style eating habits, so their weight may be climbing. Japan is big on enforcing conformity, and I can see it working there. However, it doesn't seem like something that American employers could get away with, unless it was on a voluntary basis.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:23:00 AM - said...
All governments should act to increase mass awareness about weight related issues. It is root of all other health problems like sugar, BP, Knee problems etc etc.
If Japan is able to put some control, it is step in the right direction
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:27:00 AM - said...
I think it would be a great idea,BUT again it would have to be a voluntary thing becasue of or laws and etcc but would cut down on ALOT of health issue..
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 7:05:00 AM - 
Peggie said...
I feel the government has already taken control over too many things in our lives. I don't feel they have a right to dictate our waist size. Being a nurse I know the risks of obesity but I feel the insurance companies should be able to have some control over clients that are obese and make them accountable
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:29:00 AM - said...
Get real. Who then, would the drug companies sell their drugs to?
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:52:00 AM - said...
I do not think the government should be involved in this but some type of nationwide unity would be nice. I like the idea of re-educating people on the better choices more regularly but also on easy ways to fit more exercise into your day. Maybe some type of incentive (such as lower health care costs) if you try to live a healthier lifestyle. Maybe like the 10% rule. If people were encouraged to loose 10% of their bodyweight to be at a healthier point in their lives, it may inspire them to keep going. We had a Biggest Loser contest at my work and the competition inspired people and many lost weight. People sharing easy, healthly, quickly prepared receipes I think would also help as many people are very busy with with work and children responsibilities.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:09:00 AM - said...
American's are tough minded when it comes to politics or where their dollars are spent but we are lazy or just complacent with our sagging bellies and soft life style. Soon if not now it will hurt us in the pocketbook in the way of even more costly healthcare, if you can imagine that, or possibly an obesity tax. Something must be done before it's too late to say "I told you so"!
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:23:00 AM - said...
So many employers offer reimbursement for smoking cessation programs - they ought to offer the same incentives for weight loss efforts - I know I cost the company less in insurance and sick time since I lost 83 lbs!
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:40:00 AM - said...
Given the propensity for the ACLU to get involved in any kind of governmental monitoring for Americans, it would seem very unlikely that anything like that would pass in legislation. On a voluntary basis, perhaps. I could see a program where the companies would charge a premium for healthcare for those employees that are overweight. In essence, penalizing them. Or, on the flip side, granting discounts for those that are at the "correct" weight.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:56:00 AM - said...
Japanese people are genetically shorter and smaller in stature than most European-background Americans so of course their waist measurements are going to be much smaller than ours. I'm not sure how you could enforce such an edict in the U.S., particularly when a large number of obese adults do not report to employers in any way, shape or form, let alone to have their waists measured by their employers. I say bring back mandatory physical education in public and private schools from junior high onward. PE gets cut from too many school budgets.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:58:00 AM - said...
That would not work in the US at all. People have rights even big people. If this was a voluntary program that might say give a discount on health care insurance maybe that would have some impact. I honestly believe some people would quit jobs and or riot if the government tried to intrude on our lives like that. I also think if Japan wants this to work they should first make the goals and numbers more realistic, and second give some incentive to the employees instead of just punishing the employer.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:07:00 AM - said...
America is making it increasingly difficult to lose weight. Companies are looking for the next fad diet to sell. Wether it works or not. They are only interested in making that almighty dollar. Where can you find a diet based on all the food groups that's free?
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:12:00 AM - said...
This is ridiculous! There are FAR MORE IMPORTANT things the government has to worry about, and also everyone else. If someone's overweight and they don't want to help themselves it's their problem. Talk about nosy people!! Just live your lives and stop worring about everyone else and their unhealthy ways.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:16:00 AM - said...
I have to say I kind of like the idea. The office is where I eat the worst because there is always some type of delicious food in the break room, or going around the office. I think that with more support at the workplace, a lot of people might lose weight...
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:24:00 AM - said...
I believe if the companies are willing to support the weight control then it is a wonderful incentive program.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:30:00 AM - Jessica said...
I know we live in America where we have the freedom of speech, freedom to chose our jobs, live our lives and much more. This is great, right? Well. what about the freedom to eat they way we want, even if it is unhealthy for us? I didn't know that Japan had this restriction. If we, Americans, had a waist restriction law that would cause the government to take action by providing us with the proper health care we need to become and stay healthy, I say lets do it! We need this, I know I am only speeking for myself, but haow mnay of you would like to feel better, feel healthier, and get help where you need it by droping a few or more pounds? I know I would absolutely love it. As human beings we all have health care needs, right? I know I do. So why not have this waist restriction? I thnk it would be good as long as the government would provide us with the right health care to get us,(the ones who need it), the care we need to make our bodies helathier. We would all live longer, healthier lives. This is something I know I want, because I have children that I want to be here for as long as I can, and hopefully grandchildren too! I am for it. The question is, Would our government actuallly allow this, or would they be willling to spend the tax dollars are America as a whole, instead of it going into their pockets?!
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:34:00 AM - said...
i think what the japanese are doing is a WONDEFUL idea! if people arent concerned about their health enough to prevent obesity and over weight related illness then somebody should step in bc it is spreding to our youth and very young children!! i work at a gym and am outraged at the condition that people allow themselves to get in!
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:35:00 AM - said...
Absolutely ridiculous!!! Governments have no right to do this!!! Food prices have gone through the ceiling. Many people don't have the money to buy the healthest foods. I am on a fixed income. I walk by the fresh foods to the higher calorie more affordable foods.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:02:00 AM - said...
I agree that if it were voluntary it'd be a nice idea, but otherwise the people in this country are too sensitive about certain things and would probably just find a way to start suing left and right for discrimination or something. Maybe if health insurance companies offered more incentives- gym membership discounts or dietitian help it'd be more encouragement for all people to be healthier, not just the obese. I exercise everyday, but I know I'd be in a much better place if my insurance would cover even half of a session with a personal trainer.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:06:00 AM - said...
I think Japan may be on to something. I've struggled with weight issues my whole life and personally I'm pleased American physicians have realized this is an issue worth addressing. However, I feel we haven't done enough research nor have we done enough to support and find real solutions for overweight Americans.
Instead of telling us we're bad or evil for being overweight, help find solutions and support for us.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:20:00 AM - said...
I eat less than my skinny friends do. Some people just are not skinny and never will be. Before people call the health police, I can walk longer than them without heavy breathing or complaining. I am not " oh my gosh look at her" overweight, but I would definitely be kicked out of Japan.... or unemployed.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:20:00 AM - said...
The Japanese are a smaller people than Americans; (generally speaking) and while I think they have an interesting concept, I don't think it will really work. What if a Samoan decides to move to Japan will he /she be held to the same standard of a naturally "petite" people? Where, exactly, do they draw the line?
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:33:00 AM - said...
Absolutly not! The goverment already controls WAY to much, they spend our money, tell us how to raise our children plus so many more things and then to tell us what we can an can't eat due to weight. Correct me if I am wrong but we do live in a FREE Country, RIGHT? I want to be able to enjoy a Mexican dinner or a milk shake even if I am not at my IDEAL weight set forth by guess what- The Government! The government already waste way to much money as it is, can you imagine how much money they would spend on salaries for people to go around and check to make sure people were following there "diet plans" and teaching.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:00:00 PM - said...
You've got to be kidding. Our goverment needs to do one thing and that is to protect us from our enemies not ourselves. We need to take care of ourselves and be responsible for ourselves.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:57:00 PM - said...
The government has too much control on us as it is. But, if they can govern who wears a motorcycle helmet or who wears a seatbelt....for our own safety, then why not have some kind of regulation/standard. Americans are sooooo busy that they have no time for exercise, although it is recommended. We super size everything, and expect a quick fix to many of our issues, to include weight loss. Best solution is to never gain those extra punds and to push ourselves back from the table and not overeat. A little carido exercise would benefit the mostly everyone except the insurance companies, which they are to pocket heavy, if you ask me. It would take a differnet mind set and dedication. Not sure most Americans are ready to adjust to such a concept. We have too many excuses. Sure would be nice if we could walk to work or to lunch, get exercise, save on gas, and lower our risk of obesity and heart desease.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:00:00 PM - said...
I find this interesting at best but I marvel within the states how we determine which groups to put restrictions on. Some companies charge an extra fee for insurance if someone covered smokes (which I do not) however I don't see anything related to obesity. We have more obese people which have illnesses related to that which are resulting in high healthcare expenses, more sick days... So maybe not enforced to the extend of Japan but informed regulation of weight and providing assistance across all levels of income would help the rising obesity and diabetes, blood pressure, joint injury...and perhaps just perhaps our govt would start putting the money where their political speeches are. We are in need of a solid medical plan.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:38:00 PM - said...
I think it's an insane idea. There are many reasons for obesity, not just overeating and under-exercising. Some people are genetically inclined to be larger and there are medications that cause weight gain as well. To have a government mandate your waist measurement is a draconian step. I personally take meds to control fibromyalgia symptoms, and the side-effects of three of them are weight gain. So if I lived in Japan I'd have to choose between pain or 1984 style re-education.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:49:00 PM - said...
I am sure our government would set larger waist sizes but they shouldn't have to. How many people in America are obese now? Any guesses? Just look around and see just how unhealthy Americans eat. I don't think it should be up to the government, but, since people can't seem to control their eating or educate themselves, someone needs to step in and help. Re-education would be nice but with all the information out here on the web and in the public libraries I think it should be easy to educate yourself if you were truely interested in getting healthy.
Obesity is life threatening and causes lots of health problems that mostimes lead to the person ending up on social security disability or dead at a young age. I for one would rather the government spend more to provide free gyms for adults, gym classes for kids and free nutrition classes for everyone. You can't force people to give up bad habits but you can provide them with alternatives in case they do care enough to try.
I was obese and was told I would have to lose or die soon as I have diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, anemia, all that goes with being overweight. I have gotten off my fat bottom and started moving twice as much as I used to and eating more veggies than meat or starches like bread, pasta, potatoes and sugar.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:18:00 PM - said...
We already have a penalty/incentive
when buying life insurance. I did not qualify for the cheapest rate after my physical partly because of my height to weight ratio. My weight was not in the acceptable range for my height. I wish I had lost some weight before I applied for the insurance. I could have saved about $8 per month for the next 30 years. Obviously they feel that our weight can shorten our life span and they don't want to pay for it.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:45:00 PM - said...
I think is an option that should consider on a voluntary basis with incentives to those who elect to participate in the program. I don't believe this is an intrusion into our lives as many have said, but a way to cut down on unnecessary expenses for the insurance companies which at the end are pay for by us all. When laws were enacted to have the usage of sealbets required, many people complained because it seemed as if the government was dictating the way we should live our lives, when in fact was only the government's attempt to protect innocent lives and to reduce unnecessary expenses due to car accidents resulting from not using seatbels.
At the end, everyone will win if something like this could be conducted.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:01:00 PM - said...
I heard Japan wouldn't let an american couple adopt an orphan from there because the couple was overweight. I think it's to small of a waist for men. Americans are taller and broader so maybe 35 or 36 would be more reasonable if it started here.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:38:00 PM - said...
Absolutely not.
I don't know if this is true or if I'm assuming, but it sounds like you can't get a job if your waist is too big.
How are the people supposed to make money if they can't work. And if they do get down to size, what do they do while they are losing it, it's not overnight.
And, while it is in most cases the person's poor lifestyle, that is NOT ALWAYS the case. I have been having hormonal problems and put on 25lbs. I am used to working out close to 3 hours a day pretty intensely 5-6 days a week, and I eat very healthfully most of the time.
It seems like a good idea. But it would probably cause more problems and it would solve.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 7:00:00 PM - said...
I see an eating disorder breeding ground. I'm sure they will see a rise in people who have disordered eating now. I mean, if you don't get your weight down you have to PAY. People will go to eztremes to avoid the fines.
Also, its stupid because some people carry their weight at their waist while other carry weight in their legs or arms. Its really not accurate. Also, people who have to have larger bodies for there professions (such as huge body builders) would be in trouble.
However, I like the idea of some education. I just think that it should not be based on waist size. It should be given o everyone and sould stress good health rather than just weight.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:35:00 PM - said...
I think what thier doing is great thats the only way people can be healthy, well to my point of view they should do the same here in America!
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:41:00 PM - said...
I think this is a great thing because then people will be healthier but at the same time I think there are people that arn't born to be skinny so thats kinda unfair to those people!
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:47:00 PM - said...
I dothink that weight is a big problem in the states, but i don't quite agree with Japan's approach. Instead of placing restrictions on waistlines, the government should restrict the use of certain chemicals, sugars, and preservatives used in the foods that we eat. Placing waistline restrictions would only raise america's percentages of anorexic and bulimic(sorry about spelling) citizens.
Comment: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:41:00 PM - said...
Hey I've got an idea why don't we let the government tells us how much we can weigh, how many children, what clothes we can wear and buy, what groceries we can purchase, what kind of home we can have, or if we're allowed to worship like we want to. Uh I thought that was a form of communism. Educating and having the common sence to use it is all that needs to done. It's called freedom of choice.
Comment: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:30:00 AM - said...
I believe the japanese have the right idea about the waist line. I believe that americans need to get off the couch and start walking more and they need to quit getting in there cars and riding around and spending there money on fuel. That would get the fuel prices down and the special interest groups (specualators) wouldn't be able to squeeze all the money out of the american people to make them selves rich. I know why we the americans can't get there weight down, is because we work to many hours where other countrys have more leasure time to enjoy exercising and more time to spend with there children.
Comment: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:49:00 AM - said...
I lived in japan for one year.I have never come across an obese lady in japan.Thats good to maintain their weight and health.i tried to buy a pant of size 14.i didn't get just imagine.
Comment: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:53:00 AM - said...
If - in this case - the government is going to be responsible for the health care of the population, then they should have some say so in how their dollars are spent. To many times we want more from the government without making concessions ourselves. Bottom line: yes - they fund the program - they have the right to set limits and rules. This is what socialized medicine gets you. We want some form of it in the US - be aware that if we get it - we will be faced with these limits too. How much control of our eating habits do we want to give up for access to health care
Comment: Friday, June 20, 2008 7:23:00 AM - said...
I think it would be wonderful if people would think less of their growing waistlines and place their focus on helping so many that don't even have a cup of rice for the day. Do you know that every 3 seconds somebody dies of hunger? Which means while you are having a 15 minute lunch, how many died? I think the priorities are mistaken here. Thank you for the opportunity to express ourselves.
Comment: Saturday, June 21, 2008 6:32:00 PM - Barbara Dobrinsky Holtzman said...
I've heard of ridiculous laws, but this one has got to be the worst. What if the employee can't slim down - do they get fired? Then what? I guess the Japanese have never that reward works better than punishment. The better way to go here would be to give healthy people discounts, make preventive health care free, let people who want to get healthy be reimbursed for things like portioned meal plans and gym memberships if they demonstrate they are using them and staying on program. That might work here in the US to reduce obesity. Legislate waist size? Never.
Comment: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:04:00 AM - Naomi said...
You may be overweight by Japanese standards, but don't forget most Japanese are shorter and smaller boned than the regular caucasian
Comment: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 4:20:00 AM - said...
What about sumo wrestlers - will they be exempt??
Comment: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:59:00 AM - said...
If the government is paying for health care then they can take such measures...as measuring. Something has to be done and with Japan taking this step maybe other countries will come up with more creative solutions for preventive health care.
Comment: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 1:13:00 PM - said...
I think it's great the Government is stepping in to address the weight issue, though I find the measure too drastic. I wish our government would step in, but to be efficient this measure should include forcing restaurants to reduce meal sizes, and food manufacturers to reduce the size of food packages -particularly snacks and sweets. Also, they should stop shoving food down our throats via TV adds, and I would totally ban food ads on kids channels. Th government also need to reeducate the people and teach them that what counts is not the size of the portion but the quality of the food you eat.
Comment: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:02:00 PM - said...
Every time I see commercials for the newest hamburger combo (or other super combo mega meal) I get angry. Maybe we should attack this from the standpoint of the food purveyors we all seem to need to patronize in our fast-paced lives. I don't know if I can stand seeing another commercial for the double burger now with 2 slices of some kind of greasy cheese as well as 4 slices of bacon and your choice of 1 or 2 hamburger patties plus the bread and sauce to hold them together. Yes this is a personal choice but I do believe we are all at some point at the mercy of what food is offered as "a fast alternative". I pack my lunch (very healthy) every day but when I want to stop for a quick bite when running errands or no time to cook between appointments, the quick, easy choices or our perception of the fast fix, cheaper meal, "no time or inclination to go sit in a restaurant where I have to pay $10-15 for a "quick" meal" choices win out.
My husband is diabetic, over 65 and we rarely can even find sugar free jelly for his occsional piece of toast at major senior-friendly restaurant chains.
Somehow we need to encourage (maybe with some type of tax credit?) the vendors to supply quick, healthy, less expensive meal solutions. Quit trying to super-size everything (perceived added value?) and add so much unnecessry junk to quick, cheap meals. Yes some of the "fast food kings" are trying, but most adults don't want what they offer the kids as alternatives and there are so many hidden calories in a lot of this stuff.
Healthy alternative vendors are usually hard to get to by being few and far between, more expensive, require sitting and ordering, etc. My biggest complaint is the mega meal with all the layers of bacon, sauces, cheeses, breads, etc.........wake up folks. We have to change this approach to fast food.
It is hard work to eat healthy away from home and even at home it is hard work preparing foods differently than we were raised. It is challenging after a week or 2of doing it. I know, I have been trying to cook healthy most of my adult life and it is expensive and time consuming..........I know there are those of you who will disagree with me, but who cooks your meals? Who shops for them trying to get good quality, variety, value for your money and don't want to spend every day in
the store buying everything fresh and then going home to prep it all and then cook it? Some of us live a long way from a store and stopping every day after work, trying to decide what to fix and then getting a spouse who was raised on mashed potatoes and fried chicken to eat vegetables and broiled chicken or fish every day (especially since he stopped and had the deluxe BBQ burger with bacon at lunch (at least he didn't eat the fries!) is hard work!!!!!
Getting the education and believing what you read about what is good and right for you is a full time job in itself. Most "diet" plans are very expensive...and quite frankly, most dieters just get worn out trying to fit all this stuff into an already busy schedule and just give in to what's easy. Some of us don't pig out on boxes of cookies, cakes, donuts, sodas, etc. and still can't lose the weight....we have not much to give up. We are products of our sedentary jobs and being too tired to exercise when we get home.....I know you can walk in your own neighborhood for free but after dark, after dinner, after dishes? After I've worked 10 hours, stopped at the store and then fixed a meal no one is truly wild about? No one wants to change what they are used to. The spouse and kids have seen all the commercials remember.........and most husbands prefer to stop where the food is easy to procure.............not healthy!!!
Further proof of a need to change our mindsets (from a basic cultural level) is heightened when I find that at my grandson's schools, elementary and middle,(the 3rd, a high schooler can eat what they want from the unhealthy choices put on the campus)the state has mandated that they eliminated soft drinks from the school grounds and are eliminating some "unhealthy foods" from the cafeterias BUT AFTER SCHOOL AT THE LOWER LEVELS THEY SELL ICE CREAM BARS AT ONE SCHOOL AND HUGE COOKIES AT ANOTHER FOR FUNDRAISERS FOR THE SCHOOL!!!! One little girl who was well over her ideal weight at my 2nd grader's school walked away with 10 HUGE cookies at $1 apiece! This sends a very mixed message to our kids. They are encouraged to purchase these items "to help the school"
We need a culture shift......and I do feel employers should embrace time for employees to get some exercise instead of seeing it as an interruption to their schedules and an inconvenience......not all work schedules are currently conducive to that. I KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO BUT WORKING FOLKS HAVE A HARD TIME FITTING IT ALL IN and I don't stuff my face with stuff that is bad for me or a lot of it!!!!!
I don't have the whole answer, but dieting made a LOT EASIER, a shift in what is socially acceptable and desirable would be a start.......thanks for letting me vent!
Comment: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:04:00 PM - said...
I think the government should create a tax for nutritionally poor foods such as chips & soda and what not. It might make americans think twice about buying those items, instead opting for healthier, less expensive items. It would force companies to reconsider their product lines, opting for more whole grains, and less corn syrup. It also would create a pool of money that could be used toward health care. I think we need to get to the source of the problem, rather than just expect millions of people to just change their lifestyles on the drop of a hat.
Comment: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:54:00 PM - said...
This reminds me of some science fiction movie of robotic humans who consume their nutrition through a pill in a completely joyless society. However - if the government is paying for health care that would give them the right to control things that affect individual health. That's absolutely the main reason I think governmentally controlled health care is a very scary idea. I don't want anyone telling me what I have to look like or eat. Are they going to control to what degree you can get a tan so they don't get skin cancer or who and when they can have sex so they don't get sexually transmitted diseases - of course not! The government should stay out of our personal lives.
Comment: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:09:00 AM - said...
Let's just all lay down and let the government dictate yet one more thing in our life! They already decided that we are not smart enough to put our safety belts on or a helmet on a motorcycle, they already decide, by shear "doing nothing about it" that we pay more for our food, and are limited to what we do because of the gas-prices, YES! by all means.... Let have them tell us when we're overweight. Can I please have a noose?
How about they spend their time on something they're actually put in charge for, and let us take care of our lives..... I understand the need for healthy eating habits, I just don't think making it a law is going to help....... (drug usage and underage drinking hasn't stopped, why would "eating wrong" be any different?)
Comment: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:02:00 AM - said...
They DO have the right idea. For example, our work place decided on a "Biggest Losers" concept.Sixty two of us "volunteered" and in eight weeks lost over 550 pounds. That's a lot of people. But it has not stopped there! People felt so good about themselves that it has continued. We always need a push! I have read where someone did a study and took "before" pictures of overweight individuals. They were told to lose 15 pounds or the pictures would be published. Guess how many DID NOT lose the weight...Yep, that's right, zip, zero, nada! By the way, I went to Japan for three weeks. Just be eating what they ate (all healthy) I lost my addiction to coffee, sugar and carbs and nine pounds. We need to try and if it means someone lording over us, so be it!!!
Comment: Saturday, July 19, 2008 1:41:00 PM - said...
Well, that's because they started eating American.
If Americans start eating Japanese (the old style), the trouble will fade.
Are you up to the challenge?
Well, seriously, it's a complex problem matter with no easy solution. The problem exists and will have to be dealt with sooner or later. But information is the key. Then, the individual should be capable of self-regulating. If he/she can't do it, maybe more attention should be paid to the pressure of society and the habits imposed on people. Can that be changed in the American way of life? I doubt it.
Comment: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:24:00 PM - said...
Oddly, I have had a similar conversation with people here inthe DC area several times in the last few days. AT LEAST n the government sector, there should be fitness standards of some sort. If they are not as stringent as those for military personnel, civil servants should be required tom comply with satndards of decent public health as they are stewards and consumers of public funds. Do not tell me that a government employee who is 75 lbs overweight is as healthy and productive as someone with a normal - or moderate BMI. If you cannot do 100 push ups, fine, but you better be able to walk, not waddle, up to your GS desk. In the private sector things may be legally different, but lets use govt sector labor standards to provide a good example, not social welfare and a job to hide wheer you cannot get fired for being unproductive or lacking personal discipline. How's that for addressing health and budget issues to start.
Comment: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:59:00 PM - said...
I do agree that if taxpayers (we are the government) are paying for the persons insurance, for example, government employees, (including the thousands of teachers in this country, then we should be able to require that they meet certain healthy guidelines, or pay for their own insurance. Being obese is not only a health issue, but a bad example for all our children that they are supposed to be role models for.
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:07:00 AM - said...
Life is what you make it. You can eat yourself to death or you can eat to maintain your body. Over eating is caused by other problems. Do we really want our government to be in our personal lives more than what they are now? THINK about it..
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:23:00 AM - said...
Would this work in the USA, ah NO! The government here is already to involved in individual's life and this weight thing might be the issue that pushes people over the top.
It seems to me this country didfn't have much of a weight problem until processed food and drive thru restraunts found their way into our lives. Of course the government isn't going to put restrictions on these businesses since they're "big business".....
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:52:00 AM - said...
ALL EMPLOYERS SHOULD HAVE AN ON SITE GYM OR GYM MEMBERSHIP ELSEWHERE OFFERED TO ALL OF THEIR EMPLOYEES ON A M-F BASIS. THE GOV NEEDS TO REGULATE THE FOOD BETTER. GET RID OF ALL THE ANTIBIOTICS IN OUR MEATS ETC.... HAVE FREE RANGE ANIMALS FOR SLAUGHTER. NO CAGED ANIMALS. ALL PPL NEED TO BE RE-EDUACTED. ALL SCHOOLS SHOULD HAVE 30-60 MINUTES OF GYM EVERY SINGLE DAY, NOT A COUPLE DAYS A WEEK! OUR CHILDREN NEED TO BE EDUCATED NOT ONLY ABOUT EXERCISE, BUT THE DANGERS OF VIDEO GAMES & TV WATCHING BUT ALSO ABOUT FOOD, FROM A VERY EARLY AGE. HEALTH CLASS SHOULD START AS EARLY AS KINDERGARDEN, NOT HIGH SCHOOL! HEALTH CLASSES SHOULD BE ONCE A WEEK. IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN HAVING AN EXTRA LANGUAGE CLASS ETC. THERE ARE MANY THINGS OUR GOV NEEDS TO REGULATE BUT IT HAS NOTHING BUT EXCUSES! OF ALL PLACES, THE USA CAN DO IT. WE HELP OTHER COUNTRIES, JUST NOT OUR OWN. SHAME!
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:56:00 AM - said...
THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE SOMEONE OR SOMETHING MOTIVATING & SUPPORTING US TO STAY HEALTHY. MOST PPL WHO ARE OVERWEIGHT DON'T HAVE THAT TO HELP THEM NOR HEALTH CARE. OVER THE COUNTER WEIGHT LOSS PRODUCTS ARE EXPENSIVE & MOST OF THEM DO NOT WORK. MOST PPL THINK THEY ARE EATING HEALTHY BECAUSE THE BOX SAYS SO. THE BOXES LIE & THATS WHERE THE GOV NEEDS TO STEP IN & MAKE SOME LAWS & HEFTY FINES FOR THOSE WHO DON'T ABIDE! IF OUR GOV GOT INVOLVED PPL WOULD BE HEALTHIER & LESS NEED FOR HEALTH CARE! LETS GO AMERICA! WHAT'S TAKING YOU SO LONG?
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:44:00 AM - said...
As an Emergency Room Physician, I see obesity as being one of the most horrifying health problems in the US. The multiple medical health problems that ensue are overwhelming the ER. Additionally, with the lack of insurance most of this cost is buckling the healthcare system which sadly may not survive. Additionally, I do not believe that individuals are aware at how difficult it may be in a real airway emergency to manage that airway because of morbid obesity; therefore, the doctor no matter how well trained has a patient he may not be able to save because of several factors involving the obesity. Do I think the government should step in and do what Japan is doing in regard to the problem of obesity? Our country would regard this as an infraction on the rights of the citizen. Despite the fact that obesity and it's medical consequences are becoming the burden of everyone in tax dollars,i.e., medicaid and medicare. This would also be viewed as politically incorrect. However, as a physician I would love to see the employer form health education programs and to give employee's time to exercise during their work day. Some companies are actually adding gyms to their office facility. Incentives would be a great idea such as lower insurance rates, etc. I do not want to see anyone who is obese humiliated or harmed and I believe this type of government restriction would most likely do that in the end.
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:05:00 AM - said...
If I was the owner of a company, I would like to see my employees looking good and feeling good, all a result of proper nutrition and physical exercise.It would be good to offer an incentive of gym membership to employees and team-bonding like cycling on weekends.
I believe that being physically fit=emotionally fit=mentally fit.
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:13:00 AM - said...
I think that Japan is on the right track. At least they are trying something! Of course we have a different society, but we could imlement something different here. One of the big differences in our multi cultural society in North America,
as opposed to Japan, is that there a a huge variety of body types and heights. The Japanese still have a very homogenous society where everyone has a similar,and small, body type.We have East Indians, whose average height might be 4'10" for the ladies, with small bone frames and Scandanavians who might average 5' 9" with large frames.
It is well established that the best indicator of health is the BMI
which measures height to weight, with a range built in to allow for different bone structures.
It wouldn't be a bad idea for the government, in general, to spend money to encourage everyone to get within their BMI and tell them about all the benefits they'll get from it. ie. lower insurance premiums, better lifestyles, longer life etc. It could soon be our 'MANTRA'...GET WITHIN YOUR BMI...GO,GO,GO !!!It could become our new National Anthem or something !!
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:35:00 AM - said...
We have a healthcare crisis in this country, 50 million Americans have no health insurance, and none of us can afford healthcare if we have to pay for it all. We have to make changes, our healthcare sysytem cannot continue to function the way it has for decades. This is one thoughtful option. I think it is fair that if any government or company is going to provide healthcare at little or no cost, there be guidlines for the people to qualify for it. People should do everything possible to take care of themselves, but especially if someone else is paying. I think it is perfectly reasonable to expect this partnership for health. Having said that, I know it is not that easy, the cheapest food is the most unhealthy, and the healthiest is the most expensive. We all have to make a choice for health and we all have room to improve, lets start by cutting back on the amount we eat. Then eliminate the worst foods, drink a little more water and add a little exercise. Just this would go a long way towards an improvement. Next we have to adjust our way of thinking...incorporating Eastern medical theory of eliminating the root of the problem with natural remedy, rather than only Western medical thought of taking a pill for whatever ails us (usually with side affects). We each can make these little adjustments for ourselves, making a choice for health.
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:38:00 AM - said...
You can totlly tell by these comments who is over weight. I'm a registered nurse and I see it all the time--very rarely do we get people of a healthy weight having the problems that I deal w/ at work on a regular basis; and it seems that so many more people who come into the hospital these days have type II diabetes, the comorbidities are astounding, and it is disheartening how many people don't/can't work because of their weight--we working americans pay for that!!!
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:40:00 AM - said...
LUCKY FOR US OUR COUNTRY IS ESTABLISHED UPON FREEDOM. WE SHOULD NOT REGULATE WEIGHT, RELIGON, HOUSING,OR ANY NUMBER OF THINGS. THERE ARE FAR GREATER PROBLEMS WITH OUR COUNTRY. DRUGS AND ALCOHOL CAUSE MANY HEALTH PROBLEMS IN OUR COUNTRY. WE STILL CAN'T CONTROL THEM EVEN WITH LAWS PROHIBITING OR REGULATING THEIR USE. GIVE ME A BREAK!
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:05:00 PM - said...
In response to someones plea for free diet guidance on all food groups -- the govt has been implementing an initiative on better diet and more exercise - with clever little commercials (I saw one online even - no TV)to attempt to get the word out - once again - to the American public. MYPYRAMIDTRACKER.COM is a great website based on pyramid food groups and tracking your needs by your height/age/weight. Pretty general but gives you a great idea of where you're at and includes exercise! I also like to read ediets for help and information obviously!
The comment(s) re: a potential rise in bulimia/anorexia etc. were very insightful. Not something I thought of at first - but keep in mind that that push to conform in Japan has been a huge part of their society - and their fantastic testing scores for teens and college students come with a high price of a corresponding nationally high rate of depression, suicides, etc. (This used to be the case anyways). This new government mandate may well lead to a huge increase in diet related illnesses (besides obesity) in peoples' attempts to conform - and companies' attempts to force them to. Who regulates exactly what a company can do to an employee that costs them huge fines because they couldn't lose enough weight in 6months?
I agree wholeheartedly with the need for us to all do something about our nations extreme weight (and especially our children - shame to you parents with grossly overweight children - you are potentially crippling your child socially, emotionally and physically!) - but any mandates by government/companies etc must be well thought out to avoid causing more health problems.
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:04:00 PM - said...
In theory and old world communism, this does not sound like a bad idea. But in America where everyone is so vocal and self centered --- how we have been raised, it would be called dicrimination. Obesity is already a "Disease".
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:25:00 PM - said...
This has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. What about the people who are taking the tons of medications whose side effects are weight gain? Or those with metabolic disorders that make it very hard to keep the weight off? There are also plenty of people who might look or be overweight according to the standard BMI or WHR tests, but are quite still quite fit. I happen to know quite a few people like that, and they shouldn't be fined for taking care of themselves, when they don't fit the ideal. Even those who choose to be overweight shouldn't be penalized for their choices. After all, it is their life, and if they want to be that way, then let them be. The government shouldn't impose fines on those who aren't within their ideal weight range - they should encourage people to make healthy choices and eat "bad" foods in moderation, and also encourage positive body image.
Comment: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:57:00 PM - said...
Yahoo!! Good job! It's time we crack down on everyone in the US that wants all kind of medical and dental healthcare paid for - and wants to smoke and be overweight at the same time.
Comment: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:02:00 AM - said...
If you are like me and have tried every diet known to mankind and still cannot lose the weight this would be a disasterous thing to do. I eat healthy but am still overweight. My doctor refuses to check out my endrocin system so I am now in the process of looking for a new doctor. The main thing I want to point out is that government already has too many fingers in my pie already. If I wanted to live in a communistic country I would move to one.
Comment: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:33:00 AM - said...
NO THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT, I REPEAT REGULATE WHAT A PERSON DOES NOT DOES NOT DO IN THE UNITED STATES...ONCE THAT HAPPENS, WE HAVE DEFINITELY LOST ALL FREEDOMS AS WE KNOW IT!...FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS, WELL, THEY WILL KNOW IT SOON ENOUGH...SO THEN WHAT WILL COME NEXT, WHEN YOU CAN HAVE SEX WITH YOUR SIGNIFICANT OTHER?..YES, THOSE THAT LAUGH A THIS ARE THE ONES THAT BELIEVE GOVERNMENT SHOULD REGULATE THEIR LIVES AS WELL...SO BE IT TO THOSE IDIOTS...
Comment: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:55:00 PM - said...
Two things. One, I don't think it's any of the government's business, any more than it's their business to guarantee my 'health' through belonging to the right version of Christianity or chanting the right mantras every night before bed, both things that ALSO guarantee improved health and longevity. Two, I'd had the eight pack abs, full striations showing, fit your fingers around the collarbones, working hard manual labor over 70 hours a week ... and was decidedly overweight by BMI. For many people, especially guys, who are even moderately fit, the only way to get an acceptable BMI is by amputation. It is relatively easy to get there if you're not active and simply starve yourself, through bulimia or anorexia. I don't think that's a good thing.
Comment: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:58:00 AM - said...
I think we have to remember that Japanese people are on average several inches shorter than the average North American. I think if there is an issue better ways of addressing it could be found than the intrusion of having to have your waist measured. And then of course there is the issue of Sumo wrestlers.
Comment: Thursday, September 04, 2008 7:46:00 AM - said...
I wonder how they explain the people that have never been fat or even a little heavy with heart problems and high blood pressure, I for one know 5 people that have never been overweight in their life time that is in bad shape as far as cholestro, sugar and high blood pressure and 3 people I know droped dead from heart attachs,all 3 were not never had been overweight, now I know you are thinking I am by what I have said but that is not true either, so I ask can you prove that being overweight is the reason people get sick I don't think so, I have proof that skinny or the right weight people have the same problems that overweight people have.
Comment: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:20:00 AM - said...
I think thats a terrible ideal! Its only enforcing anorexia and other eating disorders! Unless health company's want to start paying more for that - Be my guest! As a recovering anorexic I despise this ideal! Girls and boys should NOT have to go through that living hell!
Comment: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:38:00 PM - Jan said...
I have gradually gained over the last 15 years where I am now 110 lbs overweight. I have tried and tried unsuccessfully for 15 years to loose weight. I know how, what to eat and not to eat, how much exercise and the types to do to loose weight. My situation is not about education. It's about the lack of time to do these things.....cook to loose weight, plan meals, exercise, etc. all the things that are required to successfully loose weight. If government wants to really help those of us in my boat, overweight and a list of co-mobidities, high BP, high cholesteral, joint pain, GERD, etc., then provide us the time to exercise, plan, etc. during the workday.
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